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tonight turkey reaffirms the syrian plane intercepted on route from moscow was carrying russian made munitions but the departure airport in the russian capital insists there was no illegal cargo on board. the pointed their guns at the. on the ground those on board the plane tell r.t. they were threatened and humiliated by turkish authorities during the stop. and the any security official working for the u.s. embassy is assassinated in the capital sanaa and the latest incident signaling al qaeda is on the rise in the region.
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for a good evening live marty studios in central moscow is kevin owen here this hour it's now eleven pm first turkey says the syrian passenger plane that was forced to land in turkey was carrying russian made me missions to moscow airport though the dispatch that flight insists there was no illegal cargo on board in any event sixteen fighter jets intercepted the flight on its way from moscow to damascus last night it was carrying thirty seven people across all the details of the come in the saving time first off what exactly did turkish prime minister air there were enough to say in his message in iran. turkish prime minister tayyip erdogan said that russian made military equipment and ammunition was found inside the plane
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on its way to the syrian defense ministry that contradicts the statement made earlier by the russian government but no military equipment on the plane originated in russia but the russian government says the documents were checked in moscow and were found to be legal turkeys. say's that it forced the plane to land because of an intelligence tipoff and it's not the first time ever to russia has come under scrutiny for its links to damascus is it. it's not russia has come under a lot of criticism for its supply to syria since the syrian uprising began the russian government is at pains to point out though that its arms contracts with syria are longstanding ones but they abide by international legal norms and that they supply defensive equipment not for use against civilians. whilst
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still not quite clear the boxes inside the plane that were taken off what exactly was inside them whether it was as some turkish reports suggest missile components or communications equipment or something else it's also not clear at the moment who exactly was responsible for that cargo ok now let's talk whether people on board the plane last night there were thirty seven passengers together thirty five of them were passengers the rest were crew we talked to some of those people on board that intercepted plane tell us a bit more about what they had the same experience. russia saying that the turkey's accidents endangered the safety of passengers on that plane turkey for its part says that it warned the plane not to enter turkish airspace warnings which were ignored witnesses inside the plane once it was on the ground on the airport in ankara described how turkish security services entered the plane
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after the crew and began their search and one flight engineer but r.t. managed to talk to spoke of how in his view the turkish or for a tease used excessive force. by the. turkish authorities told us they wanted to take all the boxes out when we said that it was not a problem we just needed to see a warrant they said no first we will unload the boxes i insisted that we needed to see a warrant they left and came back in an hour with ten armed soldiers they pointed their guns at the hangup first put us on the ground then they drove us back to the plane into vehicle. the plane was kept on the grounds for eight hours was eventually released and continued its flight on to damascus however there are concerns primarily about how this feeds into the very
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tense situation in relations between turkey and syria with our exchanges of artillery fire last week across the border there are major fears but this could lead both countries closer to war tom for now thank you tom. but your political analyst eric draitser spoke to us see things is no coincidence that the incident with a passenger jet comes amid the ongoing international rift over syria. that demonization of russia with regard to the weapons sales is something that's been going on now for months will remember back to secretary of state clinton and her laughable accusations against the russian government that they were instigating a civil war by simply delivering what had already been contracted to the syrian government but as i mentioned already to demonize russia is to lend credence to the side that is in favor of intervention remember that the vetoes that russia and china put forward in the security council were not simply ito's against what the
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united states wants it was an attempt to prevent war and there's no way to get around that unless you can drum up some kind of an international incident that would look like put in an elaborate on their face we can report another development in the region tonight as well while turkey gets increasingly aggressive with syria over cross border fire into its territory on another of turkey's borders we had reports the turkish jets of current strikes on kurdish militant bases in northern iraq now ankara regularly launches air attacks over the border into iraq targeting kurdish hideouts the turkish government is also just given the green light to conduct such drugs for another year indeed in adoption a similar measure over syria several days ago damascus insists it's also targeting terrorists hiding over the border with turkey even though ankara regards that as a territorial breach we're live from a turkish university academic to get his thoughts about the situation in a few minutes gets more perspective on what appears to be
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a contradictory stance that as you can see things are far from carmo elsewhere in the middle east either sadly in yemen a security official of the u.s. embassy there who also coordinated anti terror work with yemeni authorities has been shot dead moshing to increase in the knowledge of the rise of terror and the lack of security in the region and he's a really good reports. the security official who was on his way to work to the u.s. embassy was shot dead in a drive by incident now the yemeni officials are saying that this particular incident has the fingerprints of al qaida all over it now many may seem to ask why is this still seem to be so powerful even after the death of its leader osama bin laden back in two thousand and eleven a lot of very small terrorist organizations which existed in knowledge just in the middle east but also of course in pakistan and afghanistan in the northern africa region the so-called islamic magreb all of these are going to now trying to latch
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on to and they want to be filled with this large very well known terrorist organization and they are continuing their operations on the ground in these countries in a very vast area just recently u.s. military official who was working as the head of the military security team in libya has said that. unfortunately is alive and well and very much keeping the country and he did say that unfortunately after the. qaddafi things have just gotten worse now a lot of analysts are saying that this seems to be the habit that united states has gotten into they are aligning themselves with the rebel fighters in various countries which are trying to depose these so-called dictatorships this was the case in libya of course this was the case in yemen unfortunately a lot of times the u.s. seems to disregard any voices of concern that a lot of these rebel fighters who are fighting against the regime actually are fighting alongside with al qaida members unfortunately once the u.s.
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does not. officials disregard these warnings they find themselves in hot water like they did in libya where u.s. ambassador was killed in what is now confirmed as an attack specifically on a u.s. officials really. in the program with no. there's a bit of blow to struggling spain reporting on the staggering unemployment and mounting debt and nationwide desperation leading to another downgrade plus. reports of just back that wants to kick out exxon mobil from the super giant westcott the one who will project potentially the place to russian companies born the some of the stories to show for it.
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means in this story even for specialists how a voice can produce several sounds it kwame's petunias the art of throat singing comes naturally picked up like a language. a language of communicating with nature it said that's where throat singing originates from the unions believe not only animals but also all surrounding objects like reverse forests and even stones of souls imitating the sounds they believe assumes to capture the power of nature. there are special instruments that accompany the singing guinea says there is even a legend about his instrument a gill it says once there lived
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a poor shefford who had the best horse that won every competition but jealous people killed it on the horse was revived as an instrument. those that have suffered a fall is because of the spirit of the horse came to his dream and said make an instrument from the tree the sounding board from the leather of my face the strings will. and to remember me to make an engraving of my head of the instrument he did so cool beans from an igloo which means come back and this melody on these women is called. to fly as one of the most famous groups in the republic their next goal is to tour prove what they say for you or opinion since difficult to pick up and sing so i ask them to teach me and see if i can do it chill you cheerlead the.
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shero you shared their order that was sure to say can out who was you think gang are all ok. but now it is the and moody part of the song and not the actual throat singing which i wouldn't even dare try to repeat. so maybe you have to be born here to be able to sing like this i thought so until i met small chooks like it vini and i don't even speak their language but she is from japan. most s. too far in mind that she pan from two hundred years ago until sappy here she's not planning a professional singing career but she keeps practicing just because it's become part of her nature.
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thirty minutes past eleven moscow time now this is r.t. and back to our top news story increasing tension between turkey and syria especially following that intercepted civilian aircraft from moscow the last twenty four hours let's get some thoughts from gareth porter he's the story that investigative journalist on the line from the u.s. he's from the u.s. national security policy council so thanks be with us turkey and its ally the us of previously lashed out at russia for providing arms to syria which moscow says own is longstanding legal contracts the flip side now is that fair with reports that the arms of been smuggled to syrian rebels via turkish territory those claims that we've heard before it was not all gel. well this incident is quite interesting in that the initial reports from the turkish authorities
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indicated very clearly that this was ammunition that was being smuggled into. into syria by a syrian civilian airline. liner and what then has happened is that subsequent reports have begun to become more vague the second report suggested that what. the turkish authorities were were saying that they had found radio communications equipment and what they thought were some missile parts but but not certainty about that and the most recent report coming directly from president erdogan is suggesting that they are still examining the contents on board the aircraft which seems likely to be a further back pedal from that from that earlier claim so this raises the question
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of whether the turkish authorities may have had some intelligence from from moscow from this so from the. russian airport indicating that there was something on board this and they may have been possibly misled by this by this false intelligence ok all could have been other option that the intelligence may be came from the u.s. seventy five the state department is saving said that it fully supports ticky to take he said she knew that aircraft likely maybe is america's involvement here. well of course it's possible that they got this intelligence from a third party and i would hesitate to guess who that third party might be but certainly it now appears that this intelligence may have been misleading and that the turks who thought they were in a position to have a gotcha moment may may have been wrong so big diplomatic blunder was it going to
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blow over do you think if that is the case. it's hard to say what the consequences of this might be i mean if the turks are unable to produce. anything resembling real military goods then i think that they will have to make some statement saying we were wrong and you know otherwise i think what we've got is some dual use equipment which certainly as has been pointed out by both syrian and russian officials is perfectly legitimate under the present rules and you know this would be something that i think would embarrass the turks so a push a bit further on possible american involvement there is a school of thought suggesting there's a campaign underway at the moment to demonize russia as it has been a major stumbling block for the white house and its allies in the push to use force against assad a fair point or not. well certainly there is some tension
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here between the united states and russia over this issue but at the same time i would think that the obama administration would not want to create this kind of incident particularly knowing that it's a false lead that could backfire and i would also say that i think the obama administration at this point is really quite concerned about the escalation of violence in syria and would like to see some progress on the diplomatic front in order to try to find a way out so i think they may indeed need to cooperate with the russians on this on this issue in the future as as with turkey iran and and egypt. back on the border between turkey and syria turkey's many clear that he could launch military action against syria any time how much of
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a danger do you think that is and could escalate into into full scale conflict dragging in others as well. i have to believe that the turkish government is going to be much more cautious than would be suggested by a. significant move across the border militarily i think that they would recognize that as not being in their interest so my guess is that that's not going to happen any time in the near future kara thanks ever so much service titled you at the top you are an historian an investigative journalist on u.s. national security policy not sure i got counsel from this little i'm out thank you so much anyway ok let's talk to some more guests now tonight more of the day's news now to europe almost junk that's the grim verdict on spain's credit rating it's come from the influential agency standard and poor's today in the latest blow than to the cash strapped economy s. and p. downgraded madrid's debt score by two notches patrick young is the man to talk about this with these executive director of in western consultancy t.v.
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advisors he's in london tonight patrick good evening it's not only the downgrade which indicates that austerity is not working let's look at the figures we've made a graphic spain's unemployment as more than doubled in recent years that debt keeps piling up output keep falling sending it slipping out of the top ten in world production i guess the big question is to you if the storm had been gathering for years why is the e.u. failed to stop it. well actually that's the sort of trillion euro question is no well given the fact that trillion euros is what everybody seems to over these days it's a terrible it's a damning indictment of everything that's wrong with the european union there's no leadership there's no organization and everybody is surviving on a wing and a prayer hoping that the tooth fairy or some other miraculous being is going to suddenly see of the euro currency. this supposed to lead more of whether or not to ask for a bailout it's been sharpened by this downgrade why spain being pushed for a solution which hasn't helped pay to the other e.u.
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states well of course the problem is that once the e.u. gets a dog well it tends to stick with that i mean somewhat like a dog with a stick really it puts it into its might and chicks it all around the sides it won't let go of it unfortunately what we're not seeing is the problem is that the northern european politicians let particularly by mrs merkel in germany have decided that they can't ultimately give too much more money because they're not allowed to politically because their voters are against it but at the same time effectively they're in a situation where they're going to demand. a completely floored remedy is going to be used which is korea's to austerity because what these countries need is the ability to devalue their currency and now we're getting actually to a very sharp focus point because for a long time we've argued that really these current countries like spain and italy and greece and portugal and so on they should leave the euro well actually perhaps maybe the other should not happen maybe it's actually the northern european countries such as germany and the benelux countries unarguably finland and france
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maybe they should be leaving the euro and leaving the euro to be a rump mediterranean currency that can die in lodi and grid comfortably in order to survive were sent back to spain is kind of damned if it does and damned if it doesn't doesn't it poor place i mean the standard and poor's decision is because spain's hesitating over a bailout moody's or the other and settling a downgrade if it doesn't ask for a bailout and there are conditions what is it supposed to do. oh look there is absolute. no easy way out for a spin at this juncture actually spin should have had the guts months ago to admit that it had a huge problem we've got this government of mr rudd he seems to have been like a sensually a deer stuck in the headlights he just has refused to acknowledge the fact that there was a crisis he's proven to be even less capable as a prime minister as his creed assessor he needs huge structural reform he ought to have left the euro months ago he needs to night stand up and either say he's not going to pay his debts or he's going to exit europe he needs to do something and be amount of action because at the moment he's just strangling his workforce the few
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that are left in work he's strangling the unemployed and he's impoverishing the great nation of spain final very quick thought this debt crisis is that led to the crisis a unity of course in the e.u. and in spain particularly those separatism calls among the loudest is the country's government now simply overloaded with problems at this time while the country is the country has huge problems because all of the regions are hugely in debt we have massive white elephants of projects we've got the catalonians as you say who xing towards the idea that they want to come back towards separatism it is quite feasible that the e.u. could help over seat the bric diamond of the spanish if we haven't got there yet but certainly there's a movement happening and there is tangible evidence that spin is on the brink of disaster. thoughts there executive director of investment consultancy devi advisors it's no twenty two and a half minutes past eleven at night on the way bankers beware cards is coming up the latest r.t. business with demetrius after the break. and
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welcome to the business update media reports suggest the rock wants to kick out the exxon mobile from its giant west colonel one project apparently the company has infuriated baghdad by signing deals with the northern kurdish region iraq is reportedly considering russia's lukoil and gazprom nets both of them already involved in the country companies declines. comment so far. capital outflow from russia could reach eighty four billion dollars this year same as two thousand and eleven according to the deputy minister for economic development since two thousand and eight outflows amounted to almost three hundred sixty billion dollars which is equal to the g.d.p. of the united arab emirates. and the u.s. labor department has once again surprised investors with jobless claims dropping by thirteen thousand last week they now stand at the lowest since two thousand and eight last week the unemployment rate sticking points of the presidential debate
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also dropped to seven point eight percent and that has provided a lot of support to the markets and you're now seeing the closing picture for the russian markets which again with them half a percent of gains were fact limited and that's all from the business team goodbye for now. even in the autumn of the years. it's never too late to start over.
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welcome to the kaiser report more algo bots and so those suits in today's headlines wells fargo just been charged with civil mortgage fraud as opposed to the unfriendly or surly sort of mortgage fraud the mere mortal thing the agent while in matters of law civil of course means being charged with a frickin crime according to the sorest dot com symbol is also synonymous with any
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a bolt benevolent benign club be cordial courteous cozy like minded neighborly sympathetic indeed. stay sarah burton tell me more civil oh great civil civil subtle not simple but civil well i did think this synonyms were great for these constant parade of civil suits against hard core financial criminals it's very clubby in cozy and benevolent and they're helping each other out so the headline is from bloomberg u.s. file civil mortgage fraud against wells fargo now again with the that in mind of the amiable suits read what the u.s. attorney says as the complaint alleges yet another major bank has engaged in a longstanding and reckless trifecta of deficient training deficient underwriting and deficient disclosure all while relying on the convenient backstop of government
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insurance. so it's a question of semantics to say they're engaged in a civil wrongdoing that clubby atmosphere has been interrupted by the imposition of the rule of law and the natural law and the social contract oh golly gee how can we continue to underwrite this fraud if somebody keeps making a stink about our use of the word civil. don't use the word terminal terminal would employ that we're doing something illegal all and you know here in london they changed the financial services authority to the financial conduct authority and again it fits in with that this is deficient training deficient underwriting so we're moving further and further away from that justice that most people in the world are seeking at this moment oh this is a crisis of justice for sure this is a huge problem around the world people are seeking.

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